All Elite (girls’s) Wrestling.
AEW is continuous its spectacular romp by way of the wrestling world, however not with out tripping on a number of drop-downs alongside the way in which. The COVID-19 pandemic largely threw a wrench into the corporate’s greatest laid plans, however boss Tony Khan would not essentially pin that as a detrimental.
Whereas the corporate’s reserving selections, feuds and matches have been largely top-tier during the last 12 months, a vocal minority of critics has additionally pegged the corporate’s girls’s division as a weak level of the promotion. Khan would not identify that as a detriment both, and with truthful cause: The fledgling promotion, in simply its third functioning 12 months, has continued to develop its ranks of ladies rivals over the previous 12 months, with “Legit” Leyla Hirsch the most recent signing for the corporate.
The corporate has seen particular development within the girls’s division, however perhaps that development has come slower than some would have preferred. Nonetheless, there have been particular brilliant spots within the girls’s ranks: Hikaru Shida is the corporate’s longest-reigning champion, the division performs host to one of many firm’s prime feuds and so they’ve continued rising their roster with gifted wrestlers.
Shida, Hirsch, Pink Velvet, Abadon, Serena Deeb and Jade Cargill are simply a number of the girls making waves over the previous 12 months, with the corporate airing a multi-continent girls’s championship eliminator event simply final month, showcasing a number of Japanese wrestling stars on its airwaves, as nicely.
The ladies’s momentum carries into Wednesday, with AEW’s Dr. Britt Baker (DMD) and NWA’s Thunder Rosa set to conflict another time on “Dynamite,” penning the most recent chapter of their white-hot feud. This time, the stakes could not be increased, with the rivals going through off in a Lights Out match.
Khan spoke with Sporting Information in regards to the growth of the ladies’s division, the expansion of Baker, the feud between Baker and Thunder Rosa, and extra.
(Editor’s notice: The interview has been edited for size and readability.)
Sporting Information (SN): One of many greatest criticisms of AEW over the previous 12 months or so has been a perceived lack of give attention to the ladies’s division. Given the pandemic, it is clearly a troublesome surroundings to develop the product. How do you’re feeling the ladies’s division has grown previously 12 months or so?
Tony Khan (TK): I feel we have seen nice growth of the ladies’s roster since AEW launched. Wrestling followers voted Dr. Britt Baker essentially the most improved wrestler on the planet final 12 months for 2020, within the Wrestling Observer awards, and she’s been a terrific chief within the girls’s division. She’s been a terrific chief within the girls’s division and we have added nice expertise internally.
I feel Pink Velvet’s are available in and accomplished a extremely good job for us, and Serena Deeb has are available in and never solely been nice for us, however then as a full-time AEW contract wrestler, went out and received the NWA girls’s title. Serena, Pink Velvet and Leyla Hirsch are nice examples of people that weren’t right here originally, who I feel have upgraded our expertise, and stepped in and change into actually nice additions.
Tay Conti is any individual who I’ve all the time thought had great potential — she has vastly improved and I feel she could possibly be a front-runner this 12 months, probably, to interrupt out and be one of the crucial improved wrestlers on the planet. I feel she had all of the instruments and all the non-public charisma that it takes to be a terrific wrestler. She all the time had every part it took, and now with extra expertise, extra reps and nice teaching, we’re seeing that.
SN: Sounds such as you’re very happy with the roster that you’ve got helped put collectively.
TK: It is only a very completely different roster. I assume we benefited from beginning with a roster with a number of the nice wrestling stars on the planet, with Chris Jericho and Jon Moxley, and naturally Kenny Omega, Cody Rhodes and the Younger Bucks on our first pay-per-view, and nice stars who would construct a world popularity like Hangman Web page. We had a whole lot of actually high-upside younger wrestlers coming in originally and earlier than we launched our TV present, like MJF and Darby Allin, Jungle Boy and a number of other others. We have additionally had a whole lot of breakout stars which have come, like Orange Cassidy, who’ve been with us, actually, from our inception and broke out.
The ladies’s division, we signed a whole lot of nice wrestlers and we have seen some growth however we have additionally had a whole lot of large motion in free company since then. Hikaru Shida is a superb wrestler, she’s a nice champion, and has accomplished a whole lot of work to get us to the place we may do a event for the primary ever eliminator that passed off on two continents, and she or he was instrumental in getting that accomplished and serving to to supply the exhibits in Japan. She needed to have one of the best competitors to wrestle, and that was a terrific event for us — it did nice viewership.
I feel now for our girls’s division, for us to have nice new stars with buzz who’ve actually added to the present previously six months or a 12 months, it actually helped us quite a bit. I am so excited for the primary occasion this week of the Lights Out match with Dr. Britt Baker versus Thunder Rosa, which is certainly one of my favourite tales we have ever instructed on all of AEW, actually.
SN: Why is that?
TK: Thunder Rosa, prime impartial wrestler, one of the crucial revered impartial wrestlers on the planet, coming into AEW, and the locker room saying, “Hey simply because AEW says they’re open to all people, we do not need it to be open to all people, we’re very protecting of our territory.” The chief and bully of this locker room, the highest heel, is Dr. Britt Baker, and she or he says, ” we do not need you right here, prime impartial wrestler, keep out, return to wrestling on the web and keep off TNT. That is our sandbox.” They’ve clashed and it has been a terrific story.
They’ve helped “AEW Dynamite” normally by being one of many nice tales on the present total for the final a number of months. This can be a fruits of a terrific story — the primary ever Lights Out match we have accomplished on “Dynamite.” We have had Lights Out matches important occasion pay-per-views and the “Fyter Fest” streaming particular however by no means on “Dynamite.” It is actually cool, it is certainly one of our large matches, and Dr. Britt Baker and Thunder Rosa are two of our prime wrestlers. They symbolize completely completely different facets of AEW: Dr. Britt Baker being a lifer, contract, long-term, locked-in wrestler, who’s the face of the corporate, and Thunder Rosa represents an outdoor firm, who got here in and exhibits that, we’re for exterior expertise to return in and be handled nicely, and we do enterprise with different wrestling corporations. Deal with them respectfully however nonetheless be sure we get taken care of.
SN: How spectacular is it to you to see the feud that these two have had? They’ve clicked since Day 1.
TK: They’ve been so spectacular, and I deliberate this for six months to repay on this Lights Out match. It has been a six-month story, but it surely would not work if you do not have individuals that may pull it off. All the pieces they’ve accomplished has stayed sizzling. If you do not have individuals who can pull it off, they would not have made it to 6 months, we might have needed to do it sooner or not do it in any respect, or name an audible. Generally issues do not work and you do not simply keep on with your plan if it isn’t working. On this case, it is labored.
All the pieces they’ve accomplished has clicked, and it is a credit score to to Britt and to Thunder Rosa, and all of the individuals who’ve been part of the presentation. Insurgent has been a terrific supervisor and instigator. It is simply actually sturdy stuff and it is certainly one of our greatest packages.
SN: I am assuming the pandemic has modified a few of your best-laid plans; now we’re seeing a lightweight on the finish of the tunnel. If you have a look at the challenges you’ve got needed to face whereas making an attempt to develop the ladies’s division and perhaps the product as a complete, what’s that been like for you?
TK: It has been a combined bag. There’s been some challenges, undoubtedly, by way of all people attending to work in entrance of the massive, stay crowds at first. However now we have had actually good crowds at Every day’s Place. The greatest place in America and on tv to get to expertise wrestling in entrance of huge crowds has been “Dynamite” for the final a number of months. It has been completely protected — out of doors exhibits with socially distanced followers, in pods with masks. We have had zero recognized transmissions in months and months of doing these exhibits and dozens of occasions and hundreds of followers.
There have been 1,300 followers on the pay-per-view — we have had over 1,000 followers for “Dynamite” over tons of and tons of of followers, a minimum of, for these exhibits and it is the one likelihood you are gonna get on tv proper now wrestling in entrance of that form of crowd. So we have made one of the best of it, but it surely actually is one of the best you are gonna get in wrestling, so by coping with the identical difficult circumstances everybody’s handled and coping with them most likely, actually, higher than anyone else handled them, I feel that is been a optimistic greater than a detrimental.
Everybody’s coping with the identical horrible circumstances within the pandemic, however we tried to be artistic and use it to our benefit. By increasing “Darkish” and now extending “Darkish” into “Darkish: Elevation,” we have discovered our developmental system and developed a whole lot of nice, younger wrestlers. Tay Conti’s come a good distance and can proceed to return a good distance wrestling a whole lot of matches on “Darkish” and “Elevation.” Pink Velvet has actually come up and has been very useful for us, and she or he obtained established on “Darkish.” Leyla Hirsch is any individual now who’s doing a terrific job for us and is now signed.
Additionally, it is created an surroundings the place lots of people have come to me trying to work collectively, or eager to work collectively and I feel that is been good for us, too. It has been a great partnership with the NWA, to have Serena as their champion for them to have such a terrific star from “Dynamite” as your champion, but additionally for us, Thunder Rosa has been nice right here and continues to be nice right here.
SN: Serena Deeb has been such a brilliant spot for the ladies’s division throughout her time with AEW. Can you set into phrases simply how a lot she has meant to the division and to the locker room?
TK: One of many actually greatest issues that is occurred to us this 12 months has been Serena coming in as a coach. She’s a coach for us and hasn’t simply coached girls’s matches, she’s coached males’s matches on “Dynamite” and supplied that perception and people concepts, so she works with individuals of all genders. She’s accomplished large stars’ matches on TV, together with Cody and Dustin and other people like that and works the headset sitting within the chair subsequent to me, whereas I time and oversee the present, so she’s a extremely useful individual on display screen and off. She’s a terrific wrestler.
She’s coping with a knee harm proper now, sadly … however she’s essential to us on display screen and off, and she or he’s our wrestler — she went to NWA and received the title. She’s actually essential, as Thunder Rosa from the NWA has been nice, and been glorious.
We use Allysin Kay who had been within the NWA, she was a free agent. She’s nice. They usually have some good actually good individuals there and so they’re beginning again up. It is a terrific relationship for us and Thunder Rosa is certainly one of our nice wrestlers, who’s their wrestler.
SN: If you have a look at Britt Baker, simply how far she’s come from being the pure babyface to being this old-school heel, how loopy is it to see that she has this a lot pure capability?
TK: Not that loopy — we knew the true individual. On this case, there was no person within the firm who had extra presence to them that wasn’t being showcased within the tv present that wanted to have an overhaul to their character. Actually no person who had larger alternative to take their actual character and showcase it on the present than Britt. She was initially introduced as a pleasant individual, a great babyface who had a fiery character, was extremely smart — a true function mannequin. We have been in a gathering, and Kenny as soon as mentioned, “I feel Britt would profit from a heel flip.” I fully agreed, and I put a whole lot of thought into it.
I knew that Tony Schiavone had been a barista at Starbucks, and I assumed, one thing that might actually make you look, frankly, like an actual b—, in the event you condescend to Tony Schiavone, who the followers love, particularly the web followers; we’ll be on the Jericho cruise the place we did this as a result of it was an ideal place. Early on within the early phases of her flip, for her to actually throw down the gauntlet on the Jericho cruise and say, “Tony was a lowly barista” and try to act like she was higher than him and she was belittling him — that obtained nice warmth.
She simply introduced increasingly of her character, which is all we requested of her. Each nice wrestler is themselves turned up a number of levels, and that may be very true of Britt. She’s actually charismatic and extremely smart, however she’s very well-suited to play the character she performs on tv. She’s obtained a giant character, and it was laborious to showcase it until she actually confirmed this wild facet as a heel.
SN: Clearly, there is a large important occasion this Wednesday evening pitting Thunder Rosa vs. Britt Baker. What can followers count on on Wednesday and from the ladies’s division transferring ahead?
TK: You may count on nice matches. We have had some actually nice matches, and this might be, I imagine on the prime of the checklist of nice matches on the present, normally. This might be one of many prime matches we have had. It is a terrific important occasion.
Lights Out matches have headlined our pay-per-views and the unique Fyter Fest. We have had some nice ones, and this can be a nice Lights Out match. This program — the Britt Baker vs. Thunder Rosa — they’re two red-hot wrestlers and two of one of the best wrestlers on the planet.
As we proceed to develop nice wrestlers who can carry a narrative like this, I count on extra nice packages and nice matches like this one. We have had nice enchancment within the depth of the roster within the final 12 months and I count on that to proceed. This can be a large week for positive, and I feel this might be certainly one of our nice matches that any of our wrestlers have ever had.